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Madworld, the game that simulates murder. Period.

  1. Have you seen this game? It's called Madworld, and the purpose is to murder people. There is a sportscaster in the background giving commentary on your murdering technique.

    It's the most fucked up thing I think I have ever seen in videogames. It gives both reason and purpose for demagogic rabblerousers like Jack Thomson to rouse rabble and shit.

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  2. Seems to be treading the same path taken by Suda51 in No More Heroes (i.e. another mature Wii title), except this game's idea of style doesn't seem to work nearly as well. The dark humor gimmick of "look, they're spilling five thousand gallons of blood per second" wore off really quickly for me in NMH, and the violence here is bound to follow suit. Doesn't look like it's got very much depth aside from the gore novelty, but then this is just a preliminary trailer for the game.

    I'll pass. However, I admit that if a friend bags this sometime down the road, I'll no doubt check it out and be amused for a while.

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  3. Gore as a selling point has always repulsed me. Gore is never wholly necessary, and while if used both sparingly as well as tastefully, it can be effective (a la the chestburster scene from Alien) it is more often used as a device for 'hey, look at how much this person is being hurt'. It's pure exploitation and shock value.

    It's a large part of two disturbing trends in our society that worry me greatly. In film, there is a large amount of films over the past 7 or 8 years (and for the foreseeable future) in the genre that I've grown to refer to as 'torture porn'. Saw, Hostel, The Hills Have Eyes, the list goes on and on. People are paying money to go watch other people be tortured and killed in the worst ways possible, and what's worse is that so many people are enjoying it.

    In games, we've also had a shifting trend towards a different form of torture porn. Games like No More Heroes, Manhunt, and Grand Theft Auto that are all about doing the most despicable things imaginable, and often in the messiest way possible. I don't like playing as the bad guy. I'm all for spilling a little covenant blood in Halo, because it is clearly layed out that they are the aggressors, they are wrong, and what I am doing is both in self-defence, and in the defence of my people. But in Grand Theft Auto, I suddenly find myself being forced by the gameplay to shoot people who have never done me any harm simply to watch them squirm. Frankly, it repulses me.

    I have always been very anti-censorship, and I am by no means against these types of games and films from being made. I do, however, wish that I could live in a world wherein 'the people' as a whole was responsible enough and mature enough to not enjoy such things.

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  4. Amen brother. MadWorld looks to be the most nonsensical game I've seen yet in the video game industry. I mean it's gore sensationalism for fuck sakes, what in the hell is the point of this game? This isn't brilliant game design, this is a cheap ploy to drive people to waste hours on slaughtering other opponents. Where's the pacing? The rewards? I'm not interested in just taking your enemies out in the most vile, vulgar and graphically violent ways possible. It just seems like pure depravation to me. I actually play games to be enlightened AND entertained. This shit is just tasteless.....

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  5. Games like this are the reason John Romero needs to get off his ass and stop making indy games. Most of us have forgiven him for Daikatana at this point, and his long, lustrous hair...I mean, his incredible intuitive design creativity are sorely lacking in today's world. Case in point.

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  6. ...and thus continues the fast, spiraling descent of our society. I blame the Japanese.

    For real, this game's designer, Shigenori Nishikawa, doesn't even think it will be released in Japan. He's developing this game purely for Americans.

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  7. I'm happy our stereotypes have transcended movies and music.

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  8. I'm not.

    I get kinda tired of not being happy with my American Citizenship. It would be nice for my people to stop being such fuckheads so much of the time.

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  9. Here's what you need to consider when you look at Mad World:

    • Devil May Cry
    • Resident Evil 1
    • Resident Evil 2
    • Resident Evil 4
    • Viewtiful Joe
    • Okami

    Because Platinum Games is the company founded by Shinji Mikami, Atsushi Inaba and Hideki Kamiya.

    All else is irrelevant. All you need to know is that the game is probably going to be innovative, feature very strong and consistent art direction, and be overly long and very difficult.

    I am probably going to buy it, because Kamiya is a god.

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  10. Mikami announced RE4 and Killer 7 at the same time. They were equal in his eyes. My eyes, however, are still recovering from Killer 7.

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  11. Rahul said:
    I am probably going to buy it, because Kamiya is a god.

    Assuming you can, less you import it from the US. Do the Dutch allow murder sims to be sold within their borders?

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  12. Of course it'll come out here!!! Anything goes, in the NETHER LANDS.
    Hell, they're even letting Ziyad in.

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  13. I think the Columbine shooting game was the most "fucked up" thing in the video game industry.

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  14. kilir said:
    I think the Columbine shooting game was the most "fucked up" thing in the video game industry.

    You know that it was purposefully created to not be enjoyed, right? The game itself is a statement. And not unlike the writings of Jonathan Swift, not something to be taken at face value.

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  15. No, I actually didn't know that. I never gave it any attention. I just assumed it was taken lightly, as the point of most games are to give entertainment or simulate something entertaining. I do apologize. No sarcasm intended.

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  16. It's all good. With all the gore some games shovel it's hard to tell when something that looks similar actually stands apart.

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  17. See, now I'm all for making a statement, and art in video games, and all that stuff, but frankly, I can't stand the thought of SCMRPG (Super Columbine Massacre Role-Playing Game). I find the guy's justification of it's creation similar to Paul Verhoevan (Verhoeven?) saying that his movies 'parodied violence'. Swift is one of my favorite authors, and he always managed to get a message across without doing anything tasteless, anything that could get him in trouble if he didn't try to protect it by calling it art, or anything purely sensational. Sensationalism is what's really bringing games down in the public eye right now, and its what allows creeps like Thompson to fester and grow until they actually start trying to do something.

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  18. You go girl.

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  19. What is it with all the gender-bending on these forums?

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  20. Traditional gender roles are passe.

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  21. Gender is overrated.

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  22. I have two things to say:

    1. Starship Troopers is awesome
    2. Super Massacre Columbine RPG or whatever it's called isn't a product of the "industry", but some bored student/hobbyist. So it doesn't count against the "industry" as such.
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  23. Was it sold at a game shop? If so I would consider it part of the industry, if it wasn't, then I agree with you.

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  24. I hate to break it to you, but you were the one that called it part of the industry, man.

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  25. Well like I said before, I never really gave it any attention.

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  26. I feel like I just stumbled onto a forum full of outraged soccer moms (take it easy, its a joke). If a little blood is going to keep you from enjoying a game, that is your prerogative. I just find it a little laughable that this game is being blasted for its "lack of innovation" months before its release. Granted, I tend to find brainless, mindless games welcome, especially after a day of work when I'm not exactly in the mood to read an entire novelized dream sequence (in reference to Lost Odyssey). If said game lets me violate people in sickening ways, then so be it. That is not to say I don't enjoy games that provide an enriching and enlightening experience, because I actually do prefer them. I just personally wish I lived in a world where people would learn to take more things that are obviously tongue-in-cheek with a grain of salt.

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  27. I'm all for tongue-in-cheek as long as its tasteful. I'm all for blood as long as its not just blood for blood's sake. If I want a mindless game after a hard days work, I'm far more likely to play Lego Star Wars or Ratchet and Clank or something along those lines than I am to partake in something like Madworld.

    A lot of what I've said probably sounds like I really dislike anyone who would play this game. I have no problem with people playing it, and I'm all for freedom of speech and expression. I just don't really like the fact that so much of our global society would play Madworld (or NMH, or any number of other gutsploitation games) before anything else. Maybe I'm just a complete prick, but it seems very banal to me.

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  28. Nobody's deriding you for your compromised taste, Crimson Head. If a little murder isn't going to keep you from enjoying a game, that is your prerogative.

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  29. I'm just voicing my opinion, where I find it a little weird that people are already writing this game off as 'non-innovative tasteless garbage' and nothing else before even getting a chance to play it. I understand that kind of argument for a game like Manhunt, which is complete, and total torture porn both in presentation and visual style (and maybe I bring a bit of hypocrisy into this on my part by saying that, but thats an example of pure and simple depravity in game form). I just don't see what the big deal is with this or No More Heroes in comparison to a game where you realistically suffocate people with plastic bags, as oppose to severing someone in half in an overly dramatic, Sin City-stylized way. I hope it doesn't seem like I'm attacking anyone (because I have a tendency of being a sarcastic prick online lately), so...

    Sausages.

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  30. mmm....sausages...

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  31. I don't think anybody wrote this game off on terms of innovation, or lack thereof. On the contrary, Rahul is clearly interested in it because he thinks it'll bring a little innovation.

    No, I'm not playing it merely because the sole object is to murder people. I don't care what kinds of new murdering innovations are made available by this game, or how enlightened and visionary the development team is. The idea of murder as sport is disgusting, and that anyone would want to situate themselves in this role, even virtually, is beyond my comprehension.

    I'm much more comfortable murdering soulless, innocent plantlife. I can't tell you how many broods of Pikmin I've killed off.

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  32. But have you made them eat hamtaro yet? This is the true test of one's pikmin mastery.

    FEEDING TIME

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  33. Unfortunately, no... because pikmin aren't actually carnivores, you know. They actually don't eat anything at all, unless you count the bitter pie baked from the constant stream of paternal neglect and spite given them by me, their master. They harvest the dead carcasses of the creatures I sic them on, none of which are hamsters i'm sorry to say, then carry them to their flying flower pods where new pikmin spores for my pikmin army are born anew from the festering bodies of God's murdered creatures.

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  34. Okay, so hi, good to be back!

    As far as Madworld, just wait till the game comes out, its not like games don't give a deceiving image of what the product is trough advertising ;)

    Plus, its in black and white, and thats RAD

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  35. you like black and white? That's great, go play Mondo Medicals.

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  36. This topic is now about pancakes.

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  37. no its not. It is about Pannekoeken.

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  38. It's actually about violence in videogames. You guys are free to go unravel your own fucking topics into heaps of random, entertaining, breakfasty bullshit.

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  39. Oh look at us, we are being responsible little gamers. Bad developer! How dare you make a violent game for violence sake!

    Yeah, fuck that. This game looks beautiful. Nothing better than coming home from a long day of doing nothing and chopping off a bunch of heads.

    And for the record, Hostel was shit. The gore sucked in that. It had some of the most boring deaths ever.

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  40. Wow. Um, I have a question.

    ...

    actually, never mind, I have two.

    What the hell are you on, and where might I acquire some?

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  41. If I knew, I'd tell you.

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  42. i like gory games. theyre funny ( ie saw 3 when the girl had her hands in the thingy where its kind of like how if you put your finger in the thing that straws go into on plastic cup tops... HILLARIOUS!!!) and otherwise i might gouge some people's eyes out with a dull spoon, then cheese grade their feet off and blend it into a drink mixed with their own feces before cauterizing their wound shut, making them walk into a room with a big bag of nachos and that drink until they get sooo thirsty from eating the salty nachos that they have to drink it.

    i need to vent somehow...
    choose... JK JK JK LOLOLOL

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  43. Sounds like Andrew needs a new job.

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  44. i need to vent somehow...
    choose... JK JK JK LOLOLOL

    This wasn't funny. People like you deserve to have an axe taken to their manhood, to be force-fed the cooked remnants of said gender, and face crucifixion above Jack Thompson's garage in the name of Death Watch.

    Announcer: "OOOOH IT'S THE VIOLENT SALVATION TECHNIQUE, PLUS 1000 POINTS"

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  45. I see what you did there.

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  46. LET THE DYING BEGIN!

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  47. No fucking way. From 1UP:

    "Final Fantasy XII certainly has its share of fans, some of whom might say that it's the best of the franchise. Unfortunately. much of the team has dispersed since the project's completion. But at least one seems to have found a place at Platinum Games.

    GameSpot has an interesting tidbit in their preview of MadWorld, noting that Vagrant Story, Tactics Ogre and FF12 designer Yasumi Matsuno is lending a hand on the game's scenarios. He was tapped by his friend Atsushi Inaba, who has a bit of experience himself thanks to his work on Viewtiful Joe, Okami and God Hand.

    Make of this information what you will, but that's quite a bit of experience right there. Consider our expectations raised. "

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  48. But....But...If Matsuno's attached to it....

    ...it might actually be good...

    ????!?!?!?!?

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  49. oh SNAP

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  50. If Matsuno's input really does results in a good (great?) game, I still probably won't play it. The violence makes me uncomfortable. It is odd how the older I get, the more skittish I am about these sorts of things. I just hope it allows him to be on more projects and do more games, hopefully I'll be able to play and enjoy some of them.

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